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[S1rut]

So I'll be honest. I bought access to the previous discord service (it was probably called EM-Service, I don't remember exactly) where it grouped all paid groups into one discord server. The result was that there were too many channels and no proof of profitability. you had about +100 messages a day, impossible to manage. more than half of those groups were dead, not functional waiting to be fixed, the messages had a considerable delay, which means that they were untradable. I add that at the time Timo was abandoning the project to offload the responsibilities to another team of guys. (I don't judge that new team's service because I don't have enough history to do it, maybe it's changed). However, too many channels put you in a condition of not knowing which one to choose. Example channel X calls a long, channel Y calls a short on the same coin, what do you do?

 

Now, I'm a long time trader, a real life developer with statistical background. more than a year has passed since the beginning of this indicator (EM Indicator). To date, nor on the official channels, I don't see any table with statistical data for the whole year of how this indicator works, which is necessary if you decide to work in finance, right? the only available table reports values without any proof. i mean also i can create a table and make it available saying i am profitable. how to have proof of what you write? the graphs of the indicator report absurd values but only because they are calculated with leverage. Example: in many images it marks the label "Peak Profit", but how can I ride this signal if I will have that label only at the close of that candle? so I will always be one candle late. I did some backtesting on the charts that Timo shares in the official telegram group. each position on average has a drawdown of around 6% against irrelevant take profits. The risk reward ratio does not exist. would you ever enter a trade where you risk your entire position for minimal profit? If you trade consciously the answer is no. if you apply leverage to that drawdown you will probably be out in a few candles.

 

Obviously there is no Stop Loss system. All charts shared on Telegram are profitable, which is impossible, how can an indicator not have losses? if that were the case Timo and his team would have a reserved seat on Wall Street, I've never seen anyone share a loss. so I see little transparency with customers.

 

Final conclusions:
-Timo could change his conditions over time, see drastic change in price, abandonment of the project to move to other projects etc etc.
- No traceability of how the indicator works, no empirical evidence. So it's like I'm talking about nothing.
- Relying on a simple strategy that you find on the TradingView Library could prove profitable, if nothing else you start with +500 $ (or how much a subscription costs now)

 

I take full responsibility for what I wrote and said, I hope that users who read this comment before purchause his services will open their eyes and analyze everything in a rational way, before thinking about the money you could make, think not to lose.

 

Read this report: https://www.nulled.t...report-on-timo/

 

I remain available for civil discussion

 

PS. this is not a sponsored review lol

Edited by S1rut, 24 January 2023 - 03:36 PM.

[Tonysar]

So I'll be honest. I bought access to the previous discord service (it was probably called EM-Service, I don't remember exactly) where it grouped all paid groups into one discord server. The result was that there were too many channels and no proof of profitability. you had about +100 messages a day, impossible to manage. more than half of those groups were dead, not functional waiting to be fixed, the messages had a considerable delay, which means that they were untradable. I add that at the time Timo was abandoning the project to offload the responsibilities to another team of guys. (I don't judge that new team's service because I don't have enough history to do it, maybe it's changed). However, too many channels put you in a condition of not knowing which one to choose. Example channel X calls a long, channel Y calls a short on the same coin, what do you do?

 

Now, I'm a long time trader, a real life developer with statistical background. more than a year has passed since the beginning of this indicator (EM Indicator). To date, nor on the official channels, I don't see any table with statistical data for the whole year of how this indicator works, which is necessary if you decide to work in finance, right? the only available table reports values without any proof. i mean also i can create a table and make it available saying i am profitable. how to have proof of what you write? the graphs of the indicator report absurd values but only because they are calculated with leverage. Example: in many images it marks the label "Peak Profit", but how can I ride this signal if I will have that label only at the close of that candle? so I will always be one candle late. I did some backtesting on the charts that Timo shares in the official telegram group. each position on average has a drawdown of around 6% against irrelevant take profits. The risk reward ratio does not exist. would you ever enter a trade where you risk your entire position for minimal profit? If you trade consciously the answer is no. if you apply leverage to that drawdown you will probably be out in a few candles.

 

Obviously there is no Stop Loss system. All charts shared on Telegram are profitable, which is impossible, how can an indicator not have losses? if that were the case Timo and his team would have a reserved seat on Wall Street, I've never seen anyone share a loss. so I see little transparency with customers.

 

Final conclusions:
-Timo could change his conditions over time, see drastic change in price, abandonment of the project to move to other projects etc etc.
- No traceability of how the indicator works, no empirical evidence. So it's like I'm talking about nothing.
- Relying on a simple strategy that you find on the TradingView Library could prove profitable, if nothing else you start with +500 $ (or how much a subscription costs now)

 

I take full responsibility for what I wrote and said, I hope that users who read this comment before purchause his services will open their eyes and analyze everything in a rational way, before thinking about the money you could make, think not to lose.

 

Read this report: https://www.nulled.t...report-on-timo/

 

I remain available for civil discussion

 

PS. this is not a sponsored review lol

That's a good suggestion. 

 

Waiting for the Thread owner come to reply him. 

[Timo]

Hey everyone.

We took a long time off forums to improve the services we offer, we took the feedback and negative comments to heart and made some big changes in our services.
We have heart for what we do and our goal is always to provide the best service available, which is why we decided to take some time off the forums, promoting our service, and marketing to focus on the core: the service it self.

Let's start off with crypto calls:
We completely rewrote our algo that handles the calls.
Previously the algo ran from an indicator instead of a strategy, which meant there was no factual backtest for the user to see, they had to take our word for it even tho we always stayed true to the results.
This has now changed, we created an actual strategy that allows us to share full backtests with the users.

We completely reworked how the algo works, this means we essentially have a new algo and thus a new product.
This new algo has been backtested for atleast a year, to ensure it's profitable in the long run.
An issue we had with our previous algo was that calls arrived late to confirm the call, this meant some calls might already have hit the target when it arrived, this is NOT the case any more!
Each call can now be followed once it's posted.

Instead of cramming everything together in one channel, we now focus on one strategy per channel, meaning we have multiple channels for specific coins, right now we have the following channels:
- 15 minute timeframe ETH/USDTPERP
- 15 minute timeframe BTC/USDTPERP
- 5 minute timeframe ETH/USDTPERP

All of these channels are utilizing machine learning to ensure the best and most profitable settings are used, so even the more risky channels that work on a 5 minute timeframe show good past results.

We created a new sheet that shows the past results + backtest to proof the actual results:
CLICK HERE TO ACCESS THE SHEET


We split the sheet per channel so that it's clear what has been good and what isn't, this also allows us to improve strategies that are performing worse in a certain market.
All the settings we use, including stop loss and take profit, have been extracted from our machine learning sessions, meaning that even if R:R might seem bad, it's actually what performs best long term.

Then the indicator:
Not a lot of changes right now, we did unlock the settings to allow people to create their own alerts.
We have some updates on the horizon, but the indicator is best used on top of your own analysis strategy, meaning it should not be used as just the indicator.
You could use various tools to decide the best TP and SL, llike ATR, recent swing, support and resistance, and various other means of deciding what the best take profit and stop loss targets would be!


We get that some of you might have lost trust in our products and services, the recent market butchered our first EM CALLS algo even tho it performed really well before the FTX crypto crash.
We are always trying to be on top of the market but the huge crash resulted from the FTX fiasco made a market that was really tough, our current algo for the calls are calculated with that period included.

We also did some changes to the pricing, we only offer a monthly subscription and lifetime, for a fair price.
To everyone reading this that made a report in the past, or had some less good feedback:
We took your feedback to heart, and worked around the clock to improve the service.
We are now finally at a quality again where we fully stand behind what we sell.

[AdoumiBigBoy]

I have a question, why are the backtests done without any leverage but the profits calculated are based on x10 leverage ? 

From my point of view the backtest should be done on the configuration that you recommend to your customers (x10 leverage) because it can definitely lead to different outcomes / results as the leverage changes the settings most notably the SL

[Timo]

I have a question, why are the backtests done without any leverage but the profits calculated are based on x10 leverage ? 

From my point of view the backtest should be done on the configuration that you recommend to your customers (x10 leverage) because it can definitely lead to different outcomes / results as the leverage changes the settings most notably the SL

Using leverage doesn't change anything, unless you use something insane like x100.
The SL and TP are fixed percentages, we used machine learning to find the best parameters for both the SL and the TP.

The leverage again doesn't change anything, just like using a different trading size then someone else wouldn't change anything, unless trading with insane seizes (like 100% of balance x25), which is something we highly recommend not to do, since risk management is key.

Here are some actual results from February tho, which include x10 leverage:

So far in Feb, we are up (all 3 channels combined) around 70% PNL, we had 1 loss and 10 wins.

[littal123]

dm me @LittalAppal

 

i cant dm people on tg thanks

[Timo]

Just some updates with results.
We got more channels coming very soon.
The new Crypto Calls algo has been amazing this far:

[Timo]

New update is ready to go!
Added 3 more channels to EM Crypto Call.
They follow a bit of a different strategy, lower winrate, but way better R:R, so a win is bigger then a loss!

[Timo]

Some more screens from our discord:

[nodins]

nice