scam report on @Timo

[officialj4y]

this has been edited today, 6 hours ago. I cannot consider this a valid confirmation of anything.

I follow the news. This has nothing to do with the news. If you are unable to provide what he paid for, he should be refunded. Being unable to provide it because you're sick or because the market doesn't let you, does not mean you have no responsibility with your customers.

I also am not seeing any warning on your server (telegram) about the calls being paused, on hold, not being made. I only see bumps and ADs promoting your service. The last mention of ''crypto calls'' was you promoting the service as your most profitable option.

No mention whatsoever about that particular service being currently unavailable. No mention whatsoever that you're activating ''compensation mode'' or that days without calls will receive compensation. I can't see your private groups so Im talking about the group you posted pictures of. Maybe you did post this on your private crypto calls group, but it should be posted on all servers so that customers and potential customers won't miss it.

 

If you are unable to provide the crypto calls service for 18 more days, making the total downtime 30 days (obviously, with the expected consistency) you will have to give him a refund for the remainder of his subscription after you stopped giving calls.

just want to make it known i dont want to be "compensated" more cuz if i do by the end of the month ill probably have another whole month of EM Calls for free. BUT i dont WANT this, i just want a refund cuz im sick of going back and fourth

 

furthermore there hasnt been any calls since the last lost trade on the 8th of November, and my membership status says it will now end on the 15th of December LOL

i bought 30 days on the 2nd, and i still have 25 days remaining LMFAO, so ive had 5 days of actual calls (a lot of which were actually cancelled or losses, lol)

 

overall this is fucking retarded, never seen any signal service like this before, absolutely ridiculous, if you buy a months worth of a service i expect an actual months worth out of it, not a months worth over the course of a whole year...

Edited by officialj4y, 20 November 2022 - 06:47 PM.

[lurker1s]

I also purchased this guys Crypto Calls, should not be sold in the first place. Tons of inactivity and all the calls are a 95% you will LOSE. This guy is an idiot, money hungry and the reason why he is selling "calls" is because he cant make any money himself. 

 

I completely agree with "overall this is fucking retarded, never seen any signal service like this before, absolutely ridiculous, if you buy a months worth of a service i expect an actual months worth out of it, not a months worth over the course of a whole year..." 

 

he also denied my refund request, and I was helpless as he just let the days run out with maybe 1 winning calls in 1 month. 

[Lucas]

I also purchased this guys Crypto Calls, should not be sold in the first place. Tons of inactivity and all the calls are a 95% you will LOSE. This guy is an idiot, money hungry and the reason why he is selling "calls" is because he cant make any money himself. 
 
I completely agree with "overall this is fucking retarded, never seen any signal service like this before, absolutely ridiculous, if you buy a months worth of a service i expect an actual months worth out of it, not a months worth over the course of a whole year..." 
 
he also denied my refund request, and I was helpless as he just let the days run out with maybe 1 winning calls in 1 month.

Do you have any evidence of this, chats? Pictures?

[Timo]

Do you have any evidence of this, chats? Pictures?

Its BS, we had a bad month which we compensated everyone for in days.
Bad months happen everywhere, and we always try to find solutions that work with the current market.

We had a couple losing calls in a row (after some very good months), we gave everyone extra days and created the filter (the one i told you about on discord).

[Lucas]

Its BS, we had a bad month which we compensated everyone for in days.
Bad months happen everywhere, and we always try to find solutions that work with the current market.

We had a couple losing calls in a row (after some very good months), we gave everyone extra days and created the filter (the one i told you about on discord).

Well as much as I would love to agree with you, it's common sense that if you are unable to continue providing a service you offer for an external reason, and this happens frequently due to market situations that you don't control, you offer a refund for the remaining days of subscription and remove the customer from the group. It's not exploitable because it's something that you know is beyond your control, or outrageous for the customer to want a refund if the service has been paused for 13 days (more than 50% of his subscription as of now) 

 

Even if you do compensate him with returning the unused days, that would be a proper solution if he wanted that. But considering he does not, if the calls are not reinstated within 17 days from today, (obviously real calls, not bogus calls just to give out something) then he should receive the refund. 

 

[Timo]

Well as much as I would love to agree with you, it's common sense that if you are unable to continue providing a service you offer for an external reason, and this happens frequently due to market situations that you don't control, you offer a refund for the remaining days of subscription and remove the customer from the group. It's not exploitable because it's something that you know is beyond your control, or outrageous for the customer to want a refund if the service has been paused for 13 days (more than 50% of his subscription as of now) 

 

Even if you do compensate him with returning the unused days, that would be a proper solution if he wanted that. But considering he does not, if the calls are not reinstated within 17 days from today, (obviously real calls, not bogus calls just to give out something) then he should receive the refund. 

 

 

I sent you the solution on discord, we created the second group today with no manual interference.
This still means our filter filters out bad calls and refunds days, this is how our system works, but simply means we won't manually disable the forwarder in there.

[Lucas]

I sent you the solution on discord, we created the second group today with no manual interference.
This still means our filter filters out bad calls and refunds days, this is how our system works, but simply means we won't manually disable the forwarder in there.

If your message was intended to be an alternative to refunding him if you cant provide proper calls, then I misunderstood you and you can consider my response to be no, you can’t offer an unfiltered service that gives calls and tell your customers that paid for filtered calls to be responsible for them. I thought you were simply doing this as a gesture to your customers that wanted to keep using your service and not to force everyone to keep using it whether they wanted to or not.

[Timo]

If your message was intended to be an alternative to refunding him if you cant provide proper calls, then I misunderstood you and you can consider my response to be no, you can’t offer an unfiltered service that gives calls and tell your customers that paid for filtered calls to be responsible for them. I thought you were simply doing this as a gesture to your customers that wanted to keep using your service and not to force everyone to keep using it whether they wanted to or not.

It's not unfiltered, it simply means no manual interference, as you told me on discord disabling the service manually means it's disabled all together.
Now the service is running, there are 2 options, either a channel where we do manually disable the forwarder when we feel the market is bad, and the one where we don't, compensation mode stays so this doesn't change the way our compensation system works.

Our system simply works like this, any proper predictor uses a filter or they will lose long term.
I think you misunderstood what we did.

Basically we have a filter, the filter decides if trades should be made or not (and which direction), then the actual prediction module which will trigger trades.
The prediction module triggers, then the filter filters out predictions that do not meet the filter requirements (for example, the filter says it's a short market, the predictor module gives a long call, and is thus filtered away).
That's how our system works, that is now on the second channel.

What we did is disable the bot manually since the mess that is the current market can trigger false positives or negatives on our filter every so often, this will not happen on the new channel.

[p3refect]

Hello, i purchased this shit too month ago now... never profited. Just commenting here for a single reason. Why he keep bumping his thread if no calls? And why such service can be allowed in 1st place? I see such service as a bustabit script. They can't predict the market, nobody can even if you have strategy, it can be sideway.

What ever. I don't want my comment considered as spam or trashtalk about the actual service by Timo. But this is sold as profitable calls/product wich is not. And for that only reason i don't understand how he can advertise it that much hard here on Nulled

Hope OP problem will be solved. Have a great day. And sorry Lucas if my comment is spammy or i don't respect the rules but as a buyer, my experience was also terrible.

[SpartanHoplite]

Hello, i purchased this shit too month ago now... never profited. Just commenting here for a single reason. Why he keep bumping his thread if no calls? And why such service can be allowed in 1st place? I see such service as a bustabit script. They can't predict the market, nobody can even if you have strategy, it can be sideway.

What ever. I don't want my comment considered as spam or trashtalk about the actual service by Timo. But this is sold as profitable calls/product wich is not. And for that only reason i don't understand how he can advertise it that much hard here on Nulled

Hope OP problem will be solved. Have a great day. And sorry Lucas if my comment is spammy or i don't respect the rules but as a buyer, my experience was also terrible.

I am sorry to post here as well @Lucas

But I completely agree. I purchased one time a little while ago. Was heavily disappointed. Ended up just not using the subscription anymore.

For the only good group, calls came rarely, rest was usually not accurate. I was disappointed, as the indications made were profitable but not the case.